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  • TeoSS69
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    09:14, January 7, 2015

    I just unlocked wigfrid and i can kick the butt of everything i see and still dont die. I dont starve because all of the new animals i find drop huge amounts of meat. All you have to do is hunt animals and not try to kill 3 bosses at once and your pretty much set. You may do things like overheat and freeze but if you unlocked wigfrid in under a year that doesnt happen all the time. One con of being carnivoric isn't too big if you can kill everything in your sight! (exept bosses by yourself) If you could add a con to wigfrid what would it be? 

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    • Em how can i unlock her ?

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    • 186.137.179.252 wrote:
      Em how can i unlock her ?

      On a RoG world get enough XP to unlock her

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    • Maybe sanity drains should be multiplied by 1.33?

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    • She´s propably crazy since she thinks she´s the person she´s performibng in the *ahem* opera (sigfrid, ring of niebelund). But why shoul´d she be as strong as the valkyries is another thing..

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    • BECAUSE WOMEN ARE STRONG

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    • ZangiefB wrote:
      Maybe sanity drains should be multiplied by 1.33?

      no, if she kills anything she regains sanity that would be pointless

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    • Lastahumaani wrote:
      She´s propably crazy since she thinks she´s the person she´s performibng in the *ahem* opera (sigfrid, ring of niebelund). But why shoul´d she be as strong as the valkyries is another thing..

      whell duh she has 120 max sanity and gains more by killing things

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    • anyone tried adventure mode as wigfrid?

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    • Jatrick wrote:
      anyone tried adventure mode as wigfrid?

      Yep, and its fairly easy.

      Go beat the shit out of any pigs/beefalo you find, make beefalo hat, beat the shit outta the clockwork guards when you find them.

      Beat the shit outta shadow monsters if you have to go insane to pass obelisks.

      Best thing is, you dont have to put the battle spear and helmet in the machine for them to carry over. and each new world you start with 4 meat. 2 ez

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    • runs slower cause right now she is a tank

      when insane she fears she isn't performing and gets weak because of it (basically it turns her sane)

      her items will get her struck by lighting sometimes when it rains (only said this because i want a quote when she is struck like "The gods are displeased with my actions!"

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    • 74.12.93.26 wrote:
      Jatrick wrote:
      anyone tried adventure mode as wigfrid?
      Yep, and its fairly easy.

      Go beat the shit out of any pigs/beefalo you find, make beefalo hat, beat the shit outta the clockwork guards when you find them.

      Beat the shit outta shadow monsters if you have to go insane to pass obelisks.

      Best thing is, you dont have to put the battle spear and helmet in the machine for them to carry over. and each new world you start with 4 meat. 2 ez

      i dont know what to say exept that i'll try adventure mode Wigfrid

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    • TheCreepySpider wrote:
      runs slower cause right now she is a tank

      when insane she fears she isn't performing and gets weak because of it (basically it turns her sane)

      her items will get her struck by lighting sometimes when it rains (only said this because i want a quote when she is struck like "The gods are displeased with my actions!"

      not the insane thing that would be kind of recreating wolfgang with the strongness but sanity problems. other than that pretty good idea.

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    • Roud72 wrote:
      BECAUSE WOMEN ARE STRONG

      Then how the heck is wendy the weakest character?

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    • Mr. Alchemist Endrew wrote:
      Roud72 wrote:
      BECAUSE WOMEN ARE STRONG
      Then how the heck is wendy the weakest character?

      some people are wimpy and some are strong. they had to balance out the fact that wendy has a ghost defender

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    • Mr. Alchemist Endrew wrote:
      Roud72 wrote:
      BECAUSE WOMEN ARE STRONG
      Then how the heck is wendy the weakest character?

      She's using her force to be strong, her ghost is her...

      whatdidijustsay

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    • The characters aren't supposed to be balanced with each other. They are supposed to be different ways to play. If Wigfrid needs to get changed then Wolfgang, WX and Wes need to be changed first.

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    • Wigfrid is so op because she is customly designed for Reign of Giants, look at webber, he is pretty damn good as well. The thing is that each character is supposed to provide a different play style and while people say WX needs a nerf and Wolfgang needs a nerf, they only need nerfs when played properly, if you dont turtle till you get gears as WX you will die, and if you have food issues on wolfgang your fucked.

      Wes is supposed to hard mode and Ballon traps are amazing,

      Wendy is designed to be good at taking multiple foes and surviving off spiders,

      Wilson is a basic character,

      Willow is partially designed for cave survival and to provide a easy way to deal with sanity for newer players.

      Wickerbottom is one of the most skillful characters in the game, if played will just cant die.

      WX is a turtling character

      Wolfgang is Hunter Gather

      Wigfrid is just a new look on hunter Gatherer, some of her stats do need to be tweaked, the meat thing would be a problem in the old Don't Starve but not in the new world and so some other aspects need to be altered, the damage and armour passives are hella op and the increase in sanity and hp when you kill something are amazing. I think that maybe Removing her damage and armour buffs, then nerfing battle helm and spear so that the battle spear is weaker than a normal spear, and so that the battle helm is weaker than football helm, maybe changing the numbers on the heath increases after killing something. And possibly giving her a penalty for using magic because it isn't "as the gods would want"

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    • To alll those who say that Webber is OP; I almost got slaughtered when I tried to offer stuff to the Pig King.

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    • 110.174.119.165 wrote:

      Wigfrid is just a new look on hunter Gatherer, some of her stats do need to be tweaked, the meat thing would be a problem in the old Don't Starve but not in the new world and so some other aspects need to be altered, the damage and armour passives are hella op and the increase in sanity and hp when you kill something are amazing. I think that maybe Removing her damage and armour buffs, then nerfing battle helm and spear so that the battle spear is weaker than a normal spear, and so that the battle helm is weaker than football helm, maybe changing the numbers on the heath increases after killing something. And possibly giving her a penalty for using magic because it isn't "as the gods would want"


      What on earth? That would be massive massive over nerfs. You already stated shes a new look on hunter-gatherer. Wolfgang is still better than her for straight up man fighting, but she is far and above more sustainable, thats her gimic. Her buffs require no upkeep, which is offset by the fact she can only eat meat. This means no mushrooms, no berries, no carrots, no farms, and as far as I'm concerned, very poor early game. Maintaining her sanity will be very hard without using lots of jerky, and you will lose nearly all of the advantage you have during summer as far as easy food is concerned. This is a MUCH more dramatic change in play than if you were playing Wolfgang, who offers the simple option of heavy fighting, at the cost of sanity. You can still play as normally as you like. She has the bonuses and gear she has because thats what she does, and thats about ALL she does.

      PS, shes the only one that can make that gear, and it costs gold, which is only sustainable with the meat you need to live. Why would you think it needs to be nerfed? Weaker tools that only she can make, that cost gold to boot? Its only fractionally stronger anyway.

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    • When I play I tend to rely on farms and berry bushes for food so I find Wigfrid’s lack of veg disturbing. I keep getting myself killed trying to get meat or starving because I don’t have enough health to attack anything for food no rabbits nearby and I can’t eat honey or blue mushrooms to get my health back up

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    • Her maximum sanity is pretty low, bet she will be having massive sanitiy issues in the caves. She is not capable of pickung up the very important green caps in the caves which means you will have to build lots of strawrolls or tents to compensate. I find the cave exploration a lot harder anyways since birds need to be fed with seeds and heat and cold are just slightly lowered underground. 

      My favorite character is Wilson. He has balanced stats and grows a beard that provides some awesome insulation and also enough beard hairs. 

      I played WX once and think he is pretty hard to play in the beginning, but that pays off with the time and your capacities sooner or later are just superior. I just hated the rain and the fact that lightnings drain his sanity... 

      I'm am not sure about the other characters, actually I'm not very interested in them. Wilson will probably always be my favorite: Record: Day 565 - and still alive 

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    • I still think the damage resistance and health/sanity regen are useless. Her unique items will be replaced soon enough, so they should just focus on buffing them and remove the other bonuses.

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    • I dont know, using the eyeplant "hospital" has saved me tons of times.

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    • She seems a bit overpowered. When I originally went through DS I played as willow and switching to wigfrid makes everything seem super easy, particularly combat. Never have to worry about keeping health up since killing mobs recovers it for you.

      The food thing really doesnt matter in most situations. All the good crockpot recipes have meat in them and Im use to living on meat diets due to winter already. Plus her starting stuff makes the begining of the game easy enough without berry scavenging. If there is a downside to it, it is that she cannot eat mushrooms for their unique recovery effects but then her regen bonus kind of counteracts this problem most of the time.

      The materials to make her helmet are usually easier to get than the football helmet for a good part of the game, making it a nice bonus that allows you to make the meat bat thing more often. If her spear is changed it shouldnt be to have anymore damage than a tentacle spike unless they make the materials for it more demanding. I dont bother with the spear but I cant justify them making it better unless they make it harder to produce. The helmet as is works fine, although they could make it have less durability perhaps to equal out with the football helm.

      I think the hp/san regen should be nerfed a bit. Not entirely taken out but reduced to maybe 15% or less. That and the damage resistance could be taken out.

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    • "I think the hp/san regen should be nerfed a bit. Not entirely taken out but reduced to maybe 15% or less. "

      I though the regen was really overpowered. Then I realised that i was gonna get healed anyway from eating food, and the sanity I would get back from the Tam. All the regen does is make her able to go without a Tam and only eating Meatballs. I don't see how that's overpowered.

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    • Well, it'll be hell in the caves with Bunnymen, as they hate meat and meat's all she can eat.

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    • Galacti wrote:
      Well, it'll be hell in the caves with Bunnymen, as they hate meat and meat's all she can eat.

      Murder and eat them.

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    • Is a bumwitch a meet item

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    • Withces are made of meat and magic, so no, it's not a meet item. Whatever meet items are.

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    • A meet tim is a meet item

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    • 68.200.196.246 wrote:
      Is a bumwitch a meet item

      This made my day.

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    • Excels in Battle, Gains Power from fallen foes - these perks should be removed.

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    • I think they don't need to be removed. Only nerfed so that gained sanity and HP would match the danger from the enemy.

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    • They alrady mach the danger of the enmy. They just need to transfer the effects to her helm and spear so that those two don't become obsolete in the late game.

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    • She should be able to eat crockpots

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    • Wigfrid does seem too powerful. Her abilities not only make her more powerful against enemies, but the game actually encourages you to fight enemies as her. As if the Battle Helm and Battle Spear wasn't enough encouragement, you also recieve 25% of enemies attack power as health and sanity. On top of that, she recieves 200 max health, 50 more health than standard. Her downsides involve only being able to eat meat and reduced sanity and hunger (120 each, 80 less for sanity and 3 less for hunger).

      The "meat-eating" perk may seem like not much of a problem, but that requires her to be constantly killing enemies. Farms are useless, berries are torture, and crockpots are nearly deviod of usable recipes. The only "safe" food she can eat is from a few animals, otherwise she can eat monster meat. Unless you can find a pig village in the first few days to farm food, you'll have difficulty eating. I don't think she's overpowered, I think people just don't realise how much people are dependant on fruit and vegetables.

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    • I'm just glad I'll have all that rot to fertilize my grass when I set camp.

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    • Monkey BBZ wrote:
      I don't think she's overpowered, I think people just don't realise how much people are dependant on fruit and vegetables.


      On a reign o' giants world? Not at all. You have about three days to find a source of meat on a new Wigfrid run, and once you do, you really are golden.

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    • Monkey BBZ wrote:

      The "meat-eating" perk may seem like not much of a problem, but that requires her to be constantly killing enemies. Farms are useless, berries are torture, and crockpots are nearly deviod of usable recipes. The only "safe" food she can eat is from a few animals, otherwise she can eat monster meat. Unless you can find a pig village in the first few days to farm food, you'll have difficulty eating. I don't think she's overpowered, I think people just don't realise how much people are dependant on fruit and vegetables.


      Not true really. She can still use veggies and fruit to make meat based crock pot recipes. Meatballs just require 1 meat item, even monster meat, and then a bunch of filler for example. The recipes I used the crock pot for before wigfrid were mostly all meatbased. She misses out on mandrake soup, a few sanity recovery recipes like taffy, and dragonpie. That and mushroom effects. It isnt the end of the world. If I can survive in the ruins using monster meat, mushrooms and lichen, it shouldnt be a problem for anyone on above ground.

      However, it looks like the new update took out her regen ability which makes her somewhat harder to play. You cant be reckless anymore because you have to heal like a normal person. This will make her meat eating trait a bit more of a challenge simply because you will have to be always fighting and you will take damage because of it.

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    • My mistake, it appears to be something related to my file/mods and not an actual change. She still regens for others.

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    • 108.172.251.148 wrote:
      My mistake, it appears to be something related to my file/mods and not an actual change. She still regens for others.

      OK, so they took out the regen effect on lureplants to stop the medical station tactic. That and frogs dont heal me. Otherwise, the regen is the same.

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    • I find her lifesteal really important. If you're relying on spiders to get food, how can you fight a swarm of them, with soldier spiders in the group, without lifesteal? With it she's able to tank them. Of course, lifesteal does make her a better fighter than Wolfgang.

      My critique is that it gets very boring playing her after a while. Simply because she can't eat 80% of the food items in the game. I get fatigued of no variety. It's just: kill spiders, pigs, tallbirds... ad infinitum. Nothing else.

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    • 71.87.210.11 wrote:
      Of course, lifesteal does make her a better fighter than Wolfgang.


      People don't know how wrong they are with this. Before comparing characters you should play them first.

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    • Hahaha, I still need to try Wolfgang.

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    • If you think she too OP then dont use her 

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    • Yeah it is not op some people think the robot character is op well in rog he's not cause he takes damage with the wet dry mechanic

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    • So I just DIED as her. So there.

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    • 68.0.84.13 wrote:
      110.174.119.165 wrote:

      Wigfrid is just a new look on hunter Gatherer, some of her stats do need to be tweaked, the meat thing would be a problem in the old Don't Starve but not in the new world and so some other aspects need to be altered, the damage and armour passives are hella op and the increase in sanity and hp when you kill something are amazing. I think that maybe Removing her damage and armour buffs, then nerfing battle helm and spear so that the battle spear is weaker than a normal spear, and so that the battle helm is weaker than football helm, maybe changing the numbers on the heath increases after killing something. And possibly giving her a penalty for using magic because it isn't "as the gods would want"


      What on earth? That would be massive massive over nerfs. You already stated shes a new look on hunter-gatherer. Wolfgang is still better than her for straight up man fighting, but she is far and above more sustainable, thats her gimic. Her buffs require no upkeep, which is offset by the fact she can only eat meat. This means no mushrooms, no berries, no carrots, no farms, and as far as I'm concerned, very poor early game. Maintaining her sanity will be very hard without using lots of jerky, and you will lose nearly all of the advantage you have during summer as far as easy food is concerned. This is a MUCH more dramatic change in play than if you were playing Wolfgang, who offers the simple option of heavy fighting, at the cost of sanity. You can still play as normally as you like. She has the bonuses and gear she has because thats what she does, and thats about ALL she does.

      PS, shes the only one that can make that gear, and it costs gold, which is only sustainable with the meat you need to live. Why would you think it needs to be nerfed? Weaker tools that only she can make, that cost gold to boot? Its only fractionally stronger anyway.

      Dude, once you get your monster meat / werepig economy rocking you'll be swimming in pigskins because you don't have to craft football helmets. There's your gold right there. That and you can just endlessly tank spiders or hounds and have more monster jerky than you know what to do with.

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    • And? what's the point? Is not a pvp game, where you must face agaist other characters. Then, i'd like to remember, the meat is hard to farm without consume all sources. Dude over me: the monster jerky drain 3 health and 5 sanity each time you eat it. Just saying.

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    • She is the fianal reward in the Game XD

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    • Mr. Alchemist Endrew wrote:
      Roud72 wrote:
      BECAUSE WOMEN ARE STRONG
      Then how the heck is wendy the weakest character?

      Hello, three month-old comment.

      Possibly because she is not a woman, but in fact a child? Also (Thinking about what a feasible counter-argument would be), the 'weakness' bit doesn't apply to Webber even though he's a child because, oh, I don't know, HE'S MERGED WITH A FREAKIN' SPIDER.

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    • 37.77.124.51 wrote:
      Is not a pvp game

      Yet.

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    • 79.106.109.248 wrote:
      37.77.124.51 wrote:
      Is not a pvp game
      Yet.

      Multiplayer!

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    • GrammarNazi11 wrote:
      Mr. Alchemist Endrew wrote:
      Roud72 wrote:
      BECAUSE WOMEN ARE STRONG
      Then how the heck is wendy the weakest character?
      Hello, three month-old comment.

      Possibly because she is not a woman, but in fact a child? Also (Thinking about what a feasible counter-argument would be), the 'weakness' bit doesn't apply to Webber even though he's a child because, oh, I don't know, HE'S MERGED WITH A FREAKIN' SPIDER.

      So what about Willow?

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    • I guess her 'strength' would be the fact that she could walk through a blazing Hellfire and come out unscathed? After all, I would think that is a VERY big strength, because think about it, if you or I tried that, we would be dead.

      Lastly, Wickerbottom is an old lady, so...

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    • I died twice because of the peguinT-T

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    • 79.106.109.248 wrote:
      37.77.124.51 wrote:
      Is not a pvp game
      Yet.

      Well, actually we don't know if it will be pvp or co-op. I doubt for the first, because they would need to start a long and painfull work of balance.

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    • There will be an option for both.

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    • 68.200.196.246 wrote:
      She should be able to eat crockpots

      How did I miss this the first time around?

      (ahem)

      Yes, she should totally be able to eat a stone pot, three bundles of sticks, and some lumps of charcoal. Why haven't they added this yet?

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    • Because if they did, they would also need to add choking from the pot, and lung problems from the charcoal.

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    • Yes, of course.

      ...Wait, choking from the pot? How about not being able to fit it in her mouth in the first place? The sticks I could see choking someone, but the pot?

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    • I can imagine a starving Wilson trying to fit the pot down his throat, or possibly smashing it into bits and praying it doesn't cause him stomach problems.

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    • Which it totally will.

      Although, if you're REALLY desperate, Chester might start lookin' real good...

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    • Otto Von Chesterfield steak dinner?

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    • Aww... Now that just makes me feel bad...

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    • Yeah... It's kinda like eating monster meat. It's just not supposed to be eaten!(except for webber.)

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    • He still shouldn't eat the crock pot, though.

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    • Although, Wilson could always take a bath in the crock pot.

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    • Hopefully not cook with it afterward, though.

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    • Unless he wanted some wet meatballs.

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    • With soap on the side.

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    • You mean SOGGY meatballs. ...I need to stop playing this game so much.

      But it's so addicting!

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    • Indeed.

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    • Well, yes Wigfrid is kinda op...



      (unless if you're a newbie at DS liek meeeeeeeeeee)

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    • Nope. I consider Wilson and Wickerbottom to be stronger as they're both more versatile. Wilson has easy effigy access. Wickerbottom has strong early and late game.

      Wigfrid looks like she has an annoyingly slow start since she's utterly dependent on cooking meat until the Crockpots kick in.

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    • Which is in the first couple days if you aren't so lazy as to not set 6 trees on fire and then cut them down.

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    • Wigfrid is the arguably best monster meat abuser in the game.At worst it will give you a slight sanity health penalthy that you can offset with one spider kill.Webber can eat it no problem but a spider+pig farm creates just too much trouble for him.I always find myself with a stupid excedent of it with only one spider nest planted near my base,and it traslates to a ton of gold from pigking,lot of eggs and hence lots of gunpowder.Enjoy your easy giant killing after you craft some sleep inducing items.

      The same could be said for any other character,right?but she always kills the spiders in 2 hits,no need to get into mighty form,no need to use your valuable tentacle spikes.Just plant it so that a stray spider ocasionally wander into you during the night and they will come in a slaughter line to you with little time and effort invested.

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    • I have a both a quarry and a hound fort about a day's walk from my camp, and a pig village not a minute away, as well as 5+ moleworm burrows. Working on trasplanting spiders, then farming monster meat from spiders + hounds, feeding pigs, killing werepigs, and swiming in Jerky + Pigskin (for more houses which = more meat + pigskin = more houses...) Plus, I just got through having Deerclops destroy FIVE pengull rookeries, so I'm swimming in Bacon and Eggs, Pierogi, Turkey Dinners small Jerky, large Jerky, etc., and I have an Eyebrella for Spring, which is in two days.

      Did I mention MacTusk is not 30 seconds away from the village?

      Man, this world is so awesome considering the crap start I had. I'll post a map screenshot later.

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    • >no need to get into mighty form

      Of course I don't. Fighting Spiders is for peasants that can't afford Bunnymen.

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    • Dont lie,you prefer fighting big fluffy bunnys because the scary faced spiders terrifie you.We are on to you wolfgang.

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    • >fighting big fluffy bunnys

      That's...that's not how it works.

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    • Erm, I think what Teo means is that the 'peasants' can't afford to make bunny hutches to have the bunnymen fight the spiders for you. Not killing bunnymen instead of spiders.

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    • I main wolfgang, and believe me wigfrid is OP.  I played her and literally it's just kill spiders for infinite monster meat, the heal on kill defeats the weakness of eating monster meat, which was SUPPOSED to have a downside because of how plentiful it is.  removing the downside makes her very one-tracked and very boring.

      I play wolfgang because the challenge of managing resources to maximize efficiency of his consumption rates feels more rewarding in the long run, but wigfrid just feels like playing classic wolfgang, just plain easy.  The thing about wolfgang is you have to stay in wimpy mode unless your ok with draining your hunger meter and going through food so fast.  Plus since he loses sanity faster hes gonna burn through sanity regeneration items alot faster.  Very resource expensive.

      I heard her healing on kill was nerfed, have yet to try it out myself, is this true?  Because a nerf like that would actually make her weakness relevant, and I would actually consider her a more interesting character to play.

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