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  • Yes, as it says in the wiki, Willow is not immune to for, nor is her lighter of infinite durability. Bug or just a bad wiki?

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    • In the main game Willow is immune to fire and her lighter has infinite durability. However, in Don't Starve Together she is not immune to fire (and instead has fire resistence) and her lighter does run out

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    • Ah, I see. Thank you very much for that contribution :)

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    • Why is Willow so extremely nerved in DST?

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    • Implord wrote:
      Why is Willow so extremely nerved in DST?

      To avoid griefing. If she werent to be nerfed all bases would be in fire.. But she is resistant to fire than other players..

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    • I was fine when I learned she isn't all that fire-proof anymore.

      My sister wasn't because she likes luring things into the woods and setting them on fire. It's her faourite tactic. She thinks Willow was made unplayable and lost all her uniqueness and that Klei betrayed her and so on... She's doing puberty.

      Anyway, fine for me, because I'm not all that into being on fire, anyway. Also, I like the Teddy.

      But to find out that her lighter runs out.. I mean, that's pretty harsh. That's like giving Lucy limited durabillity.

      Also, making her lighter run out is no measure against griefing, right?

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    • Neither is the fact that she freezes from insanity.

      Seriously, she's become somewhat useless. I mean, what's the point of playing her? She has poor sanity, freezes from insanity, her special item isn't worth the gold it needs for crafting, her other special item is pretty useless and aside from a little fire-resistence and a bit of a sanity boost around fire, which barely balances her aforementioned poor sanity...

      She's basically the new Wes.

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    • This is absolut unacceptable!

      Willow was my favorite Character of them all, now she is completly destroyed!

      Allmost every strategy i had, was based on the fakt, that she has her little Lighter and is imune to fire damage!

      Now she gets fire damage, making it dangerious to bost her sanaty with that.

      Her Lighter just...i don`t know, flyes away after 6 minutes of using #bestlighterever #sarkasim #typo

      And she freezes when her sanity drops? Are they kidding me? They toke my special girl, with a cool talent, and turnt her into a handicapped hybrit of Wenstay Addams and a lizard!

      I mean really? Who freezes, by gettig nuts?

      I think that there are so many...TOO MANY handicapps for her, i don`t think that there will be any fun, playing her anymore!

      Im not saying Klei betrayed me...they betrayed Willow, turning her into a useless Character, with notthing but a lame ass Teddy, and a lighter that last 6 minutes real time, come on!

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    • And  i don`t say that out of puberty, brother!


      Does anyone have a sujestion, what character i should play now?(In Don`t starve together)

      I was looking forward doing it with Willow but...

      I don`t think its any fun no more...

      Im looking for a character with a likeable personality, a special abiliti and the tent to spred chaos over the world.

      Some myterious backstory would be nice as well...

      Any idea?

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    • Correction: The lighter lasts 10 minutes (1.2 in-game days), not 6. And if you're constantly short on gold, you're not doing things right.

      And yes, making her lighter run out forces griefers to scavenge for resources aside from food.

      She has low sanity, and that's what Bernie the teddy is for: distracting shadows at insanity.

      Freezes when insane. Summer?

      She is also in fact immune to fire, for 3 seconds per exposure, and then the damage she takes is halved.

      The +11 sanity/min instead of +10/min may seem unnoticeable on paper, but it has a small effect in the long term. Also keep in mind you'll almost always make a fire at night, so that puts her to even less exposure to sanity drain.

      I actually think she's buffed at this point. The strategy of leading things into a forest fire is not quite smart, because it consumes massive amounts of resources and can very easily result in collateral damage.

      - Deiaa (Wall)

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    • Pravo, this is a really cool arguent you have.

      But its not Willow no more without her most likeable Power...I know for some people this might be her Lighter, but for me it wans`t.

      10 minutes are nice...cute even, when you know that there was an unlimitet light source, before Klei thogh they should ruin it!

      It`s nothing like a better Torge! With a smaler light, no less.

      Its like, Woodie would sporn with a gold axe, its nothing special any more!

      Bernie is cute, okay? I have to say...but based on what i saw, i think he is pretty slow, and those shadows are not youre biggest Problem, when you are getting Insane.

      Bevore that, Willow used to set a little fire randomly, when getting Insane...like a pyromanes like her would do.

      It makes NO sense, that she is freezing.

      Lizards do that, they need a warm place, or else they freez...but like i said, Willow is not a lizard!

      Her low sanaty is still a problem, even with Bernie.

      Bernie does not last for long. He has just 1000 healf witch sound much, but trust me...when Willows sanity is too low, Bernie can give you less that the Night.

      About the gold. Yes, you should always have some, sure.

      But even when you overlook the fakt that you need these to build science machines and alchemie engienes.

      Its sill nothing but a Torge, will lower light. The ony use is in protenction for Charlie, and burning stuff.

      You can do that with a Torge, and you can make those with sticks and gras without wasting any gold...

      Summer...what about that? Have i missed anything? I i did, please tell me, because i read the article about summer because of you, and i found nothing new, or cheering.

      I know about this 4 secons thing.

      Its enogh to ran away from it, after you`ve set something on fire...

      Running away from fire...that shouldend be something Willow would need to do...

      The Fire used to protect her from so many things, and now its deadly, like she lost a frend.

      She loses 50% less healf as the other Characters, that sounds cool...when you forgott what she was able to do, before Klei nerved her in to the ground.

      I don`t think the fire is protecting me anymore, its more like, it tryes to hurt me and failes at it for four secons...

      50% is fine, but no one will use this, everyone will stay away from fire, like with any other Character, now that she gets damage from it!

      Fire used to be her most favorite tool, it`s nothing like a weak enemie now.

      Like Spiders would attack Webber, but he loses less damage from it.

      And i think i made my point...no one will read this when the komment is too long.

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    • This is your opinion, and I respect it. I can't disagree with the fact that Willow is no longer Willow that we all knew before in DST, she does feel like a completely different character now. This doesn't mean she's useless, however, she's just so different from before, and whether it's good or bad, it's the user's opinion and that opinion should be respected in any case.

      Trust me, though, those changes are for good. Without them, public servers, especially dedicated, official Klei servers would be a nightmare. She's not necessarily bad now, but she's also not necessarily good.

      I don't want to start an argument about a difference between opinions; all opinions are different, and opinions must be respected.

      And don't worry, I did read that wall of text, from start to end. So it didn't go to waste.

      - Deiaa (Wall)

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    • Really? Huh...sorry for my bad englisch then...not my first language and stuff...

      And i know that everyone has ther opinions...and...i respect that.

      And maby you see any good in those changes, but i can`t...i tryed, but i just can`t.

      Since all of these changes seem to be only in DST, i just gonna look for a new favorite character for DST then...

      Webber maby, he seems cool.

      Willow will always be my favorite character in single player, but i can`t look forwart to this anymore...

      Anyway, thank you for respecting my opinion, i do the same with youres and was honed to hear it/read it.

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    • I see my wonderfull, orthographically gifted, sister has joined the conversation.

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    • I have not just joined brother.

      I won!

      Well kinda, we figured that everyone has opinions...so...thats nice, right.

      Still lame thogh...i want my Willow back...i want her to be imune and everything.

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    • I get it I get it, its like taking away spider priveleges from Webber, and dropping his sanity to 50 as max (If they did that I would break Klei's Neck). I also love Willow since she has emergency fire for the night. (although she can freeze) And yes I did read this whole thing even if I werent here for like 16 hours. I remember using Willow when I did not have a campfire, and sanity isn't that much of a problem.. I survived Wickerbottom over 100 days without having my Sanity go to the 3rd shrivelled part (the one before monsters). And I got peeved about making Abby's flower needing nightmare fuel, a hard resource in DST. Try search for mods in the workshop or in fact, create one to make Willow good again, thats what I would do. Atleast they did not take away Wilsons MAGNIFICANT beard of insulation power. And Willow is still good for Winter as you could burn trees/pig houses (hehe) to survive the whole 20-30 days you have

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    • (and by meaning reading the whole thing, I mean LITERALLY the whole thing)

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    • Agan....sorry for my english...really.

      And thank you for reading!

      If there be a mod, that gives Willow her true identeti back, that would be awesome...

      I...well, i am not gonna lie, i never used a mod...but i might start using them, at least i get my Willow back...

      But i have no idea how to use them...i never used any mods in any game...i haven`t even cheaded in Sims with "Motherlode".

      I always tryed to make it by my self, but if this is the only way to get Willow back...i guess i have to lern about mods and stuff...

      Willow is just able to light things with Torges or her lighter.

      As soon the lighter is away, with happens after some days of using, you have to use Torges like any other character.

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    • And for DST I recommend Wickerbottom as she has 250 sanity as a max and can get you far in game pretty fast. Good for those who need help in game 

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    • Mods are easy to install! Well, if you have Steam. On the console (ps4 and xbox 1) you cannot install mods. If you have it on steam use the workshop, click subscribe to the mod you have, make a world in dst, click on the mods tab and check the box with the mod you have (steam is easy with this, ps4 and xbox dont have mods -.-)

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    • Just as DatShadow said. If you are using Steam, mods can never be easier to install. There is in fact a mod on the Steam Workshop which un-nerfs Willow. I can't find it in the middle of all the mods at the moment, though, so for now here's a link to the Steam Workshop, hopefully you can stumble upon it there. Once I find it, I'll replace that link with another one that leads directly to the mod.

      If you aren't using Steam though, you'll have to get mods from the Klei Forums, which I don't know if it's as easy or not, or even how to get them, so you'll have to figure it out yourself, unfortunately.

      Have fun!

      - Deiaa (Wall)

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    • Thanks for youre tipps...i see what i can do.

      Im not so good with Wickerbottem...i have no idea why, but i somehow died with her after 10 days or something...

      Also: Wickerbottem is to tidy and...i dunno how to say it...simpel?

      I always loved the Challange of keeping Willow sane, and watch the world burn with her.

      I still gonna try out Webber...lets see how it is to play on the dark side.

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    • Just watch out for pigs :P

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    • I'm surprised how long this convo has been for

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    • DatShadowJK wrote:
      I get it I get it, its like taking away spider priveleges from Webber, and dropping his sanity to 50 as max (If they did that I would break Klei's Neck). I also love Willow since she has emergency fire for the night. (although she can freeze) And yes I did read this whole thing even if I werent here for like 16 hours. I remember using Willow when I did not have a campfire, and sanity isn't that much of a problem.. I survived Wickerbottom over 100 days without having my Sanity go to the 3rd shrivelled part (the one before monsters). And I got peeved about making Abby's flower needing nightmare fuel, a hard resource in DST. Try search for mods in the workshop or in fact, create one to make Willow good again, thats what I would do. Atleast they did not take away Wilsons MAGNIFICANT beard of insulation power. And Willow is still good for Winter as you could burn trees/pig houses (hehe) to survive the whole 20-30 days you have

      What abot Abys Flower 0_0

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    • Actually, not needing Nightmare Fuel would not make much sense to me, and Nightmare Fuel isn't so hard to come by (but not saying it's easy either). You shouldn't even be losing the flower in the first place, anyway. I only find myself losing it when dying, after which a Touch Stone reserruction covers your fuel need.

      As a Wendy main in DST, I don't find this a problem, but that's just me. Others may or may not find it a problem.

      - Deiaa (Wall)

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    • So... In DST, I still have the Flower, it's still eternal, there just ist a way of rebouilding it if you loose it?

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    • You still start with it, and it will always be there as long as it's in your inventory. If it's on the ground or in an inventory that is not Wendy's for 3 days (another Wendy player carrying your flower will not cause it to decay), it disappears, and that's when you need to craft a new one. You won't be losing it often, though, and if you do, it has a map icon, so it won't be so hard to recover it in time, unless someone loots your corpse and takes it. The same applies to other character-specific items except Lucy the Axe (as Woodie will turn into a Werebever regularly), Willow's Lighter and Wigfrid's Spear and Helm (since they have durability).

      You also don't need to lose the flower to be able to craft it, but you still can't have more than 1 Abigail active.

      - Deiaa (Wall)

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    • 'Kay, thanks for making me smarter. :)

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    • No problem!

      - Deiaa (Wall)

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    • You know you could find literally 3/4 of this on the specific character's page?

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    • Although I think opinions of others is kinda better.. or way better

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    • And I mean nightmare fuel is hard because.. the ruins man.. the ruins.. and shadow creatures are hard for newbies, but I'm polite and not take other peep's death reasources

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    • Oh, I find the shadow creatures adorable.

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    • They kill me alot, though...

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    • I do admit that shadow creatures are difficult to handle for new players, Terrorbeaks are still difficult to deal with at medium experience, and Beardlings only have a chance to drop Nightmare Fuel, but somene playing as Wendy should know what they're doing anyway, and if they are very new to the game and use Wendy without Abigail, without kiting or any of these tactics, they'll be already dead by then.

      All of these problems are addressed by experience in the game, so they shouldn't last for too long.

      - Deiaa (Wall)

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    • My sister and I talked about wether Willow was immune to fire before she entered Maxwells world.

      What do you guys think?

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    • Why would`t she?

      I mean, Woody was turning in to his "terrible secred" form, before he entered Maxwells world.

      At least thats what Lucy said.

      But...i think i should open up a new discussion about this...i mean, more opinions and such...

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    • Did it

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    • He he he he he he...

      Just figured that my new main Character(for DST) is Wigfried.

      Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...much fun!

      She is like Willow, just instead of Fire, she uses Weapons.

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    • And only eats meat

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    • You can't set a forrest on weapon.

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    • I can see the reason Willow was nerf for griefing porposes, but can a player who wants to grief others succeed anyway? Of course. It's so easy to put thing on fire just with a torch. For me, who play with friends, Willow is a big lost to a team. The teddy is cool and all, but experience players don't need that item if the character as no other values. Willow need a buff. Being fireproof and have an infite lighter that she can only use would be just fine

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    • Its called Mods m8

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    • You shouldn't have to use Cheats to make a character playable...

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    • Y'know, Klei could just remove all the changes for Willow and make it so her fires can't burn down structures made by any other players. This way, her thing of setting fires at low sanity, and her lighter, would only be an issue for herself. Well, she'd still have Bernie, but this suggestion would solve griefing problems and let people play with the Willow they know and love, even in DST.


      Or maybe people could play don't starve together alone to play as reg Willow instead of DST Willow, but still with DST's features.

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    • Oh look...a smart person!

      THANK YOU!!!

      Thats what i am talking about...

      Well there would still be the problem with the forests...

      Willow coud be a troll and burn the Forest down...but...c`mon, thats the risk when playing with her! The goal of DST is to work together and use eatch others pros and cons to survive as long as possible.

      One of Willows cons is that she can burn things by accident.

      Its how she is...man...

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    • And no...you can`t put a Forest on Weapon...i tried...

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    • Prinzessin Alice wrote: And no...you can`t put a Forest on Weapon...i tried...

      Unless you use an axe.

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    • 71.54.231.49 wrote:

      Prinzessin Alice wrote: And no...you can`t put a Forest on Weapon...i tried...

      Unless you use an axe.

      Or a boss.

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    • True, but does Bearger use a weapon?












      I didn't think so.

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    • Off-topic! 


      I think Willow needs something new...

      Her focus should stay fire. 

      The bonuses to her should stay as well, and she should also still be able to craft lighters for other players to have. 

      Bernie is also a nice addition.

      Freezing when at low sanity? I'm at the chopping block here. But I think it must stay, while there are many uses, she is still the queen of fire, and will probably be able to heat herself from one of her fires.

      Her fire involnurability must return!!!!!!!!! That's one of the only reasons I used to play as Willow. I could take down a Dragonfly, in the snap of your fingers!

      Also, her lighter should no longer dimminishable. If so, it should last AT LEAST 10 game-days, and should be refuelable, with something cheap, like logs.

      To avoid griefing, we Willow (and all other characters) must not burn down structures made by other people. On PvP/Madness servers, the creators should be notified to take down the Willow at once. Also, her fire should only be able to spread a certain radius (to avoid the burning of major forests, etc.) Also, among other things, non-renewable items that can be burnt by players, should only be burnable by natural causes (e.g, summer). If done correctly, griefing with Willow will become so hard, that average players will just give up, and play regular survival with her.

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