In the main game Willow is immune to fire and her lighter has infinite durability. However, in Don't Starve Together she is not immune to fire (and instead has fire resistence) and her lighter does run out
I was fine when I learned she isn't all that fire-proof anymore.
My sister wasn't because she likes luring things into the woods and setting them on fire. It's her faourite tactic. She thinks Willow was made unplayable and lost all her uniqueness and that Klei betrayed her and so on... She's doing puberty.
Anyway, fine for me, because I'm not all that into being on fire, anyway. Also, I like the Teddy.
But to find out that her lighter runs out.. I mean, that's pretty harsh. That's like giving Lucy limited durabillity.
Also, making her lighter run out is no measure against griefing, right?
Neither is the fact that she freezes from insanity.
Seriously, she's become somewhat useless. I mean, what's the point of playing her? She has poor sanity, freezes from insanity, her special item isn't worth the gold it needs for crafting, her other special item is pretty useless and aside from a little fire-resistence and a bit of a sanity boost around fire, which barely balances her aforementioned poor sanity...
She is also in fact immune to fire, for 3 seconds per exposure, and then the damage she takes is halved.
The +11 sanity/min instead of +10/min may seem unnoticeable on paper, but it has a small effect in the long term. Also keep in mind you'll almost always make a fire at night, so that puts her to even less exposure to sanity drain.
I actually think she's buffed at this point. The strategy of leading things into a forest fire is not quite smart, because it consumes massive amounts of resources and can very easily result in collateral damage.
This is your opinion, and I respect it. I can't disagree with the fact that Willow is no longer Willow that we all knew before in DST, she does feel like a completely different character now. This doesn't mean she's useless, however, she's just so different from before, and whether it's good or bad, it's the user's opinion and that opinion should be respected in any case.
Trust me, though, those changes are for good. Without them, public servers, especially dedicated, official Klei servers would be a nightmare. She's not necessarily bad now, but she's also not necessarily good.
I don't want to start an argument about a difference between opinions; all opinions are different, and opinions must be respected.
And don't worry, I did read that wall of text, from start to end. So it didn't go to waste.
I get it I get it, its like taking away spider priveleges from Webber, and dropping his sanity to 50 as max (If they did that I would break Klei's Neck). I also love Willow since she has emergency fire for the night. (although she can freeze) And yes I did read this whole thing even if I werent here for like 16 hours. I remember using Willow when I did not have a campfire, and sanity isn't that much of a problem.. I survived Wickerbottom over 100 days without having my Sanity go to the 3rd shrivelled part (the one before monsters). And I got peeved about making Abby's flower needing nightmare fuel, a hard resource in DST. Try search for mods in the workshop or in fact, create one to make Willow good again, thats what I would do. Atleast they did not take away Wilsons MAGNIFICANT beard of insulation power. And Willow is still good for Winter as you could burn trees/pig houses (hehe) to survive the whole 20-30 days you have
Mods are easy to install! Well, if you have Steam. On the console (ps4 and xbox 1) you cannot install mods. If you have it on steam use the workshop, click subscribe to the mod you have, make a world in dst, click on the mods tab and check the box with the mod you have (steam is easy with this, ps4 and xbox dont have mods -.-)
Just as DatShadow said. If you are using Steam, mods can never be easier to install. There is in fact a mod on the Steam Workshop which un-nerfs Willow. I can't find it in the middle of all the mods at the moment, though, so for now here's a link to the Steam Workshop, hopefully you can stumble upon it there. Once I find it, I'll replace that link with another one that leads directly to the mod.
If you aren't using Steam though, you'll have to get mods from the Klei Forums, which I don't know if it's as easy or not, or even how to get them, so you'll have to figure it out yourself, unfortunately.
DatShadowJK wrote: I get it I get it, its like taking away spider priveleges from Webber, and dropping his sanity to 50 as max (If they did that I would break Klei's Neck). I also love Willow since she has emergency fire for the night. (although she can freeze) And yes I did read this whole thing even if I werent here for like 16 hours. I remember using Willow when I did not have a campfire, and sanity isn't that much of a problem.. I survived Wickerbottom over 100 days without having my Sanity go to the 3rd shrivelled part (the one before monsters). And I got peeved about making Abby's flower needing nightmare fuel, a hard resource in DST. Try search for mods in the workshop or in fact, create one to make Willow good again, thats what I would do. Atleast they did not take away Wilsons MAGNIFICANT beard of insulation power. And Willow is still good for Winter as you could burn trees/pig houses (hehe) to survive the whole 20-30 days you have
Actually, not needing Nightmare Fuel would not make much sense to me, and Nightmare Fuel isn't so hard to come by (but not saying it's easy either). You shouldn't even be losing the flower in the first place, anyway. I only find myself losing it when dying, after which a Touch Stone reserruction covers your fuel need.
As a Wendy main in DST, I don't find this a problem, but that's just me. Others may or may not find it a problem.
You still start with it, and it will always be there as long as it's in your inventory. If it's on the ground or in an inventory that is not Wendy's for 3 days (another Wendy player carrying your flower will not cause it to decay), it disappears, and that's when you need to craft a new one. You won't be losing it often, though, and if you do, it has a map icon, so it won't be so hard to recover it in time, unless someone loots your corpse and takes it. The same applies to other character-specific items except Lucy the Axe (as Woodie will turn into a Werebever regularly), Willow's Lighter and Wigfrid's Spear and Helm (since they have durability).
You also don't need to lose the flower to be able to craft it, but you still can't have more than 1 Abigail active.
I do admit that shadow creatures are difficult to handle for new players, Terrorbeaks are still difficult to deal with at medium experience, and Beardlings only have a chance to drop Nightmare Fuel, but somene playing as Wendy should know what they're doing anyway, and if they are very new to the game and use Wendy without Abigail, without kiting or any of these tactics, they'll be already dead by then.
All of these problems are addressed by experience in the game, so they shouldn't last for too long.
I can see the reason Willow was nerf for griefing porposes, but can a player who wants to grief others succeed anyway? Of course. It's so easy to put thing on fire just with a torch. For me, who play with friends, Willow is a big lost to a team. The teddy is cool and all, but experience players don't need that item if the character as no other values. Willow need a buff. Being fireproof and have an infite lighter that she can only use would be just fine
Y'know, Klei could just remove all the changes for Willow and make it so her fires can't burn down structures made by any other players. This way, her thing of setting fires at low sanity, and her lighter, would only be an issue for herself. Well, she'd still have Bernie, but this suggestion would solve griefing problems and let people play with the Willow they know and love, even in DST.
Or maybe people could play don't starve together alone to play as reg Willow instead of DST Willow, but still with DST's features.
Well there would still be the problem with the forests...
Willow coud be a troll and burn the Forest down...but...c`mon, thats the risk when playing with her! The goal of DST is to work together and use eatch others pros and cons to survive as long as possible.
One of Willows cons is that she can burn things by accident.
The bonuses to her should stay as well, and she should also still be able to craft lighters for other players to have.
Bernie is also a nice addition.
Freezing when at low sanity? I'm at the chopping block here. But I think it must stay, while there are many uses, she is still the queen of fire, and will probably be able to heat herself from one of her fires.
Her fire involnurability must return!!!!!!!!! That's one of the only reasons I used to play as Willow. I could take down a Dragonfly, in the snap of your fingers!
Also, her lighter should no longer dimminishable. If so, it should last AT LEAST 10 game-days, and should be refuelable, with something cheap, like logs.
To avoid griefing, we Willow (and all other characters) must not burn down structures made by other people. On PvP/Madness servers, the creators should be notified to take down the Willow at once. Also, her fire should only be able to spread a certain radius (to avoid the burning of major forests, etc.) Also, among other things, non-renewable items that can be burnt by players, should only be burnable by natural causes (e.g, summer). If done correctly, griefing with Willow will become so hard, that average players will just give up, and play regular survival with her.