FANDOM


  • LaDestitute
    LaDestitute closed this thread because:
    Done with this.
    11:44, December 18, 2015

    I keep making fucking mistakes with edits and I feel like I'm making other users angry about it, maybe I should just go ahead and leave and never return...

      Loading editor
    • Nobody learns without making mistakes, so don't worry. If you make any mistakes, the people on the wiki will be more than happy to fix it for you and note it so you learn. Who knows, maybe one day you will have a position here. :)

        Loading editor
    • Thanks, that makes me feel a little better. Also, I noticed your Rick avatar earlier, Rick & Morty is one of my new favorite shows.

        Loading editor
    • Erm, I've been using this Spider Warrior avatar since I joined the wiki, and I never changed it so far. Perhaps you have mistaken me for someone else..

        Loading editor
    • Oh, was thinking of Anemicnederp.

        Loading editor
    • That happens..

        Loading editor
    • I have a feeling I'm the cause of this post, I'm sorry if my post on your page offended you in any way or something, I definitely didn't mean anything like this.

        Loading editor
    • No, it's fine, I'm better now. I'll definitely stay though, since as of Shipwrecked's advent, we could use an extra hand on deck, eh?

        Loading editor
    • Sure, for science!

        Loading editor
    • Also, what do you think of changing the (with the Mosquito icon) Bug headers to "Bugs & Anomalies"? We should try to also group anomalies under that, which I define as an odd occurrence which appears to be a bug but may possibly be an intended feature or merely a developer error.

        Loading editor
    • That's a good idea, we can change it to the following format:

      Mosquito Bugs and Anomalies

      Bugs

      • <Bug>

      Anomalies

      • <Anomalies>
        Loading editor
    • Hmm, maybe we should remove the Mosquito icon, and reserve it for pure bugs, and instead use the Crock Pot "question mark" for Anomalies?

        Loading editor
    • Also, I'm not sure, but are biome names on the wiki decided by the Turf names in the strings.lua file? Wanting to add the rest of the Shipwrecked stuff, but don't want to be wrong.

        Loading editor
    • The Crock Pot's question mark is used for Trivia sections right now, nothing seems to fit there more. I will be searching for possible icons to use.

      For the other question, well, I guess so, but I'm not sure.

        Loading editor
    • Only asked because I used to maintain the Starbound gamepedia wiki and we used a ? icon for anomalies.

        Loading editor
    • Hmm, maybe we could use a small icon of Wilson's face, specifically with an expression of confusion?

        Loading editor
    • It's ok.

      I'm currently thinking of the "Thulecite Fragments" icon. Example:

      Thulecite Fragments Anomalies

      For the Wilson face, maybe use this?

      Dont Starve Emoticon dswilson Anomalies

        Loading editor
    • That seems like that would be a decent fit, seeing how as Thulecite's non-game lore origins (being based off of Cthulhu mythology) fits it. 

        Loading editor
    • Same thought. So, Thulecite Fragments it is?

        Loading editor
    • Yep!

        Loading editor
    • Just remembered, anomalies were already going into the Trivia sections..

      We may need a 3rd decision here.

        Loading editor
    • Um, as far as I remember, the "Bug" page used to exist previously but it was deleted because it wasn't really helpful...

      I'm not going to delete it; I'm just telling you about it to see if you accept its deletion. If not, discussions are always welcome.

      Also, we don't have an "Anomalies" category here..

        Loading editor
    • I don't think I mind the possability of deletion, we could always condense the Bug page into the Template:Anomaly and Template:Bug pages, but that would mean we would have two copies of the same description for disambigation purposes.

      I edited the Ox and ThatchPack pages as examples. Tell me what you think. I got the rid of the border because it wouldn't space itself away from infoboxes, and I made the bug/anomaly icons 64px to make thing prettier looking.

        Loading editor
    • That's not quite what I expected.

      Just remembered why we didn't use it in the first place...

        Loading editor
    • Why did you delete the other response you made? I had typed something semi-long, hit reply, and now it's gone. I had some good points.

        Loading editor
    • Oh, sorry about that. The refreshing system sometimes results in serious accidents.

      I'll see if I can restore it..

        Loading editor
    • Yep, thank god there's that "Undo" button.

      Edit: Welp, your reply didn't refresh..

        Loading editor
    • You said we need a third opinion on this, and yet, you went ahead and did it anyway. Okay then. I blanked the template pages I made, since we probably won't be using them.

      Also, you said wouldn't delete the Bug page, as well. Not that I'm mad, just wished we could of discussed more before coming about a decision or more properly, waited for a third opinion.

        Loading editor
    • Dammit, I really shouldn't do 1 A.M. editing..

      Well, good thing there's an "Undelete" button.

        Loading editor
    • I made template pages for anomaly and bugs because it would automatically sort pages into categories, which would make them easier to keep track of. It also looks a bit nicer as it automates the image. It would also be useful to have a general page to list all known current bugs and anomalies in one place. If we want to keep track of bugs, we have to do it more effeciently and pages being misinformative or messy doesn't help.

        Loading editor
    • Ok, so I actually think I should stop right here, 1 A.M edits just won't.. I've already messed things up..

      I probably should carry on tomorrow...

        Loading editor
    • I just want to know if we'll possibly use the anomaly/bug templates I made, I can always condense the bug page into them or figure how to condense the template:anomaly into template:bug, and use some sort of switch argument.

        Loading editor
    • Okay, so I am a little confused here. Why doesn't the idea of the template work?

      Also, LaDestitute, we have ALL made errors here in some way. It's just that because of SW that there are a lot more opinions and people here. That just allows so many more possibilities for arguments and differences of opinion. Don't feel like you aren't welcome here because we can see that you are working hard to try to correct things that you see are wrong. :)

        Loading editor
    • I like the anomalies ideas.

      Also don't worry. I've made my fair share of mistakes. I've even been attacked for trying to create pages. You'll always be welcome! :)

        Loading editor
    • Here, I restored one of the template pages, so you can see an example on the history of the Ox page. Should be my edit before Deiaa reverted it, by the way.

        Loading editor
    • I should explain how it works. It's a template that would look like this:

      {{anomaly|text goes here}}

      {{bug|text goes here}}

      It'll generate the text with an image automatically, and as a bonus, sort of any pages with listed anomalies or bugs into categories, so they're easier to keep track of. I originally had planned for the blank Anomaly/Bug link in the template to link to a general Bug page but I'm thinking of self-containing that in the Bug and Anomaly templates as part of the documentation.

        Loading editor
    • I like the idea as well.

        Loading editor
    • I like the idea.

        Loading editor
    • Oh cool, but I feel like I might wait for Deiaa to come back, though.

        Loading editor
    • Okay.

        Loading editor
    • LaDestitute
      LaDestitute removed this reply because:
      Spam.
      11:02, December 17, 2015
      This reply has been removed
    • I totally messed up yesterday, it was 1 A.M, so sorry about that.

      But anyway, my current opinion of the idea: Symbol support vote.png Support

      The picture is way too big however, I think the size should be reduced to 32px instead of 64px as 32px is the default size for heading icons.

        Loading editor
    • Awesome...I just finished overhauling the Food page, added all the Shipwrecked stuff to it, took me...hours! I'm way too tired now, but I'll work on on the templates tomorrow and condense a bug/anomaly explanation page right into them.

        Loading editor
    • Also, what is your opinion for having one single catch-all page for known bugs? What I mean specifically is a long page to list every known bug or anomaly in one place, and would be titled something like "List of known bugs".

        Loading editor
    • Symbol oppose vote.png Oppose Because of a few things:

      1. It will be way too long and not very useful.
      2. Bugs will be periodically fixed, so the page will have to be regularly cleared out.

      That's a lot of effort, and bugs about things are already listed on their pages. I don't know how the Starbound gamepedia wiki works, but I know how this wiki works.

      Anyway, I was thinking about a simpler, easier-to-insert format for bugs and anomalies:

      <Page text>

      Mosquito Bugs

      • <Bug>

      Thulecite Fragments Anomalies

      • <Anomaly>

      What do you think? instead of making templates, why not just insert an easy heading?

        Loading editor
    • >Anomalies

      Why not just add them to trivia?

        Loading editor
    • Why not just add them to trivia?

      –Anonymous contributor 79.106.109.196

      Because that's what we are currently doing. It can also help readers differentiate anomalies from anything else.

        Loading editor
    • I wanted to add templates, so we could have pages sorted automatically into respective categories, i.e "Category:List of known bugs by page" or something.

        Loading editor
    • Timothy also said he supported the idea of the anomaly/bug templates.

        Loading editor
    • At the moment I just prefer adding simple titles. Categorizing bugs usually doesn't do much.

      And yes, I saw Timothy's reply.

        Loading editor
    • I thought you gave a support vote towards the templates? Okay then.

        Loading editor
    • I gave support towards the idea, not necessarily the templates.

      Anyway, it's a good idea at the end, and I support it.

      Also, about the Magma (environmental feature) page, do you want it deleted? I see it blank and according to your summary on the Magma page indicates a change of mind.

        Loading editor
    • I just think we should be more proactive about keeping track of bugs especially since Shipwrecked is on the horizon and it's part of my intent to majorly tidy up the wiki (I've seen many wikis, popular or not, where such an aspect goes stagnant and barely gets updated), but alright then.

        Loading editor
    • Also, alright with you if we have a History section for pages? See Water Beefalo for example.

        Loading editor
    • I'm against adding more sections when older ones work just fine. Especially this History section one when the Trivia and the Version History page do the same thing already. That effort is better put elsewhere, like formatting on the Verson History page. Category for bugs doesn't do much since the Devs don't read the wiki on that topic and that's only useful to them.

      Also before I went dark, I edited the ancient items pages in a format that o me should be used on every other item/structure page. What does everyone think?

        Loading editor
    • I did get support votes from both Deiaa and Timonthy towards anomalies. I was going to merge them into the Bugs header, i.e "Bugs and Anomalies" and maybe split up in the inner details via icons. Mosquito for bugs and Thulecite Fragments for anomalies as Deiaa had suggested. Not an icon for every bug and anomaly though, just have bugs on a page listed in order first, than any anomalies right after. If you don't know what I mean by an anomaly, it's defined as a bug that may have been an intended feature, something omitted (for later update?) or developer error.

      Also, at the very least, if anything I wanted,  I personally think a History header is useful. We have new DLC out (and an update just dropped last night) and I dislike the idea of sudden redirect/renames, massive detail changes, as least to new and uninformed users. Don't want them to get confused if something introduced in the initial DLC build had it's name changed or was removed to get fixed, as examples of what I mean towards.

        Loading editor
    • >it's defined as a bug that may have been an intended feature, something omitted (for later update?) or developer error.

      Then why just not state it as such in its line instead of messing with icons?

      >History header

      Still not seeing it. The version history does just that. And redirection on renaming will happen regardless. This just adds more work to keep up and inconsistency with other pages that no one thought of keeping tabs on their changes. New and uninfromed users either will be really new and be familiar with the new stuff or will ahve been keeping up with the updates (as anyone buying early access is). Seems like not worh the effort for me.

        Loading editor
    • Also can you edit the pictures on Walani to be consistent with pictures in the other character pages? Just replace the ones you uploaded and leave the renaming to me.

        Loading editor
    • Okay, just a little upset to see all of one of my ideas shotdown by everyone here. It's fine though.

        Loading editor
Give Kudos to this message
You've given this message Kudos!
See who gave Kudos to this message
Community content is available under CC-BY-SA unless otherwise noted.