Talk:Return of Them/@comment-88.110.96.166-20200212132919/@comment-34211265-20200212134550

That's just the thing: we don't know.

At first, many people thought Them are the shadow creatures, but after the Metheus puzzles, it was realized that the shadow creatures are more likely to be the Ancients - as the murals and the Ancient Fuelweaver suggest they were decieved by Them. One thing is for sure, the shadow king/queen (currently Charlie) is still a minion to Them.